Special Episode at the AFC Summer Conference 2025

Chris Kirby

CEO & Co-Founder
Tomorrow's Journey

Episode Overview

Powering the Future: AIs, EVs & the Road Ahead  

This special episode of the Auto Futurecast podcast, hosted by Chris Kirby, brought together some of the brightest minds in the asset finance and automotive industries during the Asset Finance Connect Summer Conference.

Covering themes from electric vehicle (EV) adoption to the role of artificial intelligence (AI) in asset finance, the conversation was insightful, forward-thinking, and packed with valuable takeaways. Here’s a recap of the episode highlights and key discussions.

Karima Haji - Managing Director at Scania Financial Services; Transition to HGV Electric Vehicles

Current Challenges in HGV EV Adoption  

Karima Haji from Scania Financial Services outlined how the heavy goods vehicle (HGV) EV market lags behind its car counterparts due to a lack of government support and infrastructure in the UK. While European countries like Denmark and Norway have advanced through subsidies, UK operators struggle with high upfront costs and insufficient charging infrastructure.

Hope on the Horizon  

  • Depot-to-Depot Use Cases: Companies adopting EVs within predictable routes (such as Depot-to-Depot operations) are gaining traction.  
  • Collaborative Infrastructure Efforts: Initiatives created which aim to resolve bottlenecks, but scaling nationwide remains a challenge.  

Karima also warned of the critical need for better grid infrastructure to ensure smooth large-scale deployment of megawatt chargers.  

Richard Huston - Managing Director & Co-Founder of VAMOS; AI as an Efficiency Driver

Human-AI Collaboration  

Richard Huston highlighted how AI, particularly through their product Lucero, is being used to handle high volumes of operational tasks like customer emails and contract management.

However, he emphasised augmentation over automation, arguing that AI should support human expertise rather than replace it. He noted that businesses adopting AI prematurely often risk creating inefficiencies if foundational processes aren’t optimised.

Key Insight  

AI’s biggest benefits are best realised when integrated carefully into workflows, offering enhanced support for decision-making while maintaining the human touch.

Tony Lynch - Founder of CarPass.ai; Synthetic Salespeople for Auto Financing

Next-Gen Customer Experiences  

Tony Lynch introduced the concept of "synthetic salespeople" through CarPass.ai technology, which uses AI to create dynamic, conversational experiences for car buyers. This innovation aims to eliminate the limited functionality often seen in traditional chatbots, replacing them with engaging and context-aware tools that simulate human-like conversations.

The Shift to AI-First Websites  

Tony predicted a major transformation in online interactions, declaring that “websites as we know them will become relics.” He believes AI-first interfaces will soon dominate, particularly in sales journeys that require flexibility and interaction.

His approach highlights a key transition for businesses needing to adapt now or be left behind.

Dom Surlis - Specialist Consultant at Ayvens; Balancing Policy and Market Realities

Challenges with Plug-In Hybrids  

Dom shared insights into the evolving automotive policy landscape. While plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) gain popularity due to incentives, upcoming policy changes could affect their viability.  

  • By 2024, adjustments to emissions calculations may reduce tax benefits for business users.  
  • At the same time, other policies incentivise PHEV sales to support OEM regulatory compliance.

The resulting uncertainty could bring volatility to both fleet and retail markets.

A Call for Stability  

Dom urged the government to introduce more predictable and balanced policy updates to support sustained market growth while minimising disruption from rapid adjustment periods.

Tom McLennan - Director of Policy & Public Affairs at BVRLA: Revitalising EV Rental and Charging

Focusing on Destination Charging  

Tom McLennan from BVRLA introduced their “Bon Voyage Charge” campaign, encouraging better charging facilities at key destinations like airports. Rental markets, he argued, face distinctive challenges, including turnover logistics for EV fleets.

His emphasis on infrastructure improvements is key to making EV rental seamless and accessible globally.

Consumer Perceptions  

Significant challenges remain around educating first-time EV renters to build trust and eliminate "range anxiety" or misunderstandings about charging logistics in unfamiliar territories.

Final Thoughts

The special Auto Futurecast episode recorded at the Asset Finance Connect Summer Conference revealed industry-wide consensus on two driving forces that will shape the future of asset finance:

  1. Electric Vehicle Accessibility: Tackling infrastructure and affordability challenges is essential for sustainable EV adoption at scale.  
  2. Artificial Intelligence as a Strategic Tool: AI offers game-changing efficiencies but requires careful and deliberate deployment to avoid risks.

For listeners seeking the edge in a rapidly-evolving market, this episode served as a compelling call to action.

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